City Council Minutes 9-4-18

TREMONTON CITY CORPORATION
CITY COUNCIL MEETING

SEPTEMBER 4, 2018

Members Present:
Diana Doutre
Lyle Holmgren
Jeff Reese
Bret Rohde
Lyle Vance
Roger Fridal, Mayor
Shawn Warnke, City Manager
Linsey Nessen, City Recorder

CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP

Mayor Fridal called the September 4, 2018 City Council Workshop to order at 5:31 p.m. The meeting was held in the City Council Meeting Room at 102 South Tremont Street, Tremonton, Utah. Those in attendance were Mayor Fridal, Councilmembers Doutre, Holmgren, Reese, Rohde, and Vance, City Manager Warnke, and City Recorder Nessen. The following Department Heads were also present: Community Services Director Marc Christensen, Public Works Director Paul Fulgham, Finance Director Curtis Roberts, and Police Chief Kurt Fertig.

1. Discussion of Vision Statement, Mission Statement, Values, and Pillars for Tremonton City- Councilmember Rohde

Councilmember Rohde asked if this is something the Council wants to continue to pursue? The Council agreed they did, but would like it proofread. The next step is to go through the five pillars and come up with one goal for each of them. The Council agreed to take 15 minutes during the next few work sessions to get this finalized. Once those goals are determined, we will adopt that as part of the City’s vision, mission and pillars. Councilmember Rohde said he would like to have training to help department heads develop their staff and accomplish these goals.

Councilmember Rohde said for the vibrancy pillar, we have ideas such as revitalization, new investments, creating a sense of place, public art, public gathering spaces, restaurants, entertainment and historical preservation. As our first goal, we could focus on the revitalization of downtown. Councilmember Reese agreed and said that might add some historical preservation at the same time. Councilmember Rohde said we want to come up with a measurable goal. In five years from now where do we want to be? Also where do we want to be next year toward that five-year goal? How can City staff help the Council accomplish that and move forward? Councilmember Reese said if we start with revitalization it seems like the other things could fall in place. Councilmember Rohde said during a presentation in Brigham City, Roger Brooks said the most important thing a city can do is revitalize and work on their downtown. We need to spend time doing so and coming up with common focuses so we can enhance the tax base and people spending their money in town. Mayor Fridal said in talking to businesses that are looking at Tremonton, they sometimes mention that downtown does not look vibrant—we can do better. Councilmember Reese said this is his 15th year as a Councilmember and we have talked about revitalization of downtown for a long time, but by setting goals, maybe we can get something going.

Councilmember Rohde asked what some goals are in the development pillar. Councilmember Holmgren said revitalizing downtown encompasses a center of retail for the Bear River Valley. We like to think we are, but there are a lot of outside forces drawing dollars away from Tremonton. We spend a lot of time trying to encourage folks from outside of Tremonton to come here. I would like to see us focus on some of our local people and give them the same opportunities and encouragement that we give to those outside the area. I would like to see the City Council have more opportunities to have a say and input into that. Councilmember Vance agreed that we need economic opportunities inside and outside. We need to focus on transportation and figure out our future roads and drainage so we have a game plan and can keep it organized. We have talked about growing along the freeway. We need to look at that and have the ground ready. Councilmember Rohde suggested we come up with a five-year goal on where we want to be with development. In the next year, we can concentrate on local business and maybe the next year we could purchase local land for businesses. He mentioned using UTOPIA as a way to attract small, high-tech companies. Councilmember Doutre said restaurants are also needed.

When talking about Stewardship, Councilmember Rohde said this is our fiscal management, infrastructure, ensuring the public is informed and engaged, as well as emergency and disaster preparedness. Councilmember Vance said we could add financial stewardship to help stay within budgets. Everybody does such a good job, but that is part of the stewardship responsibility. Councilmember Rohde said we could have a board displayed showing how the City is doing to help gain efficiencies and save money.

Health, Safety and Welfare is also something to think about said Councilmember Rohde. We need to address the health and safety of our community, which involves the police and fire departments. In two weeks, let us take 15 minutes to start trying to button down our goals. We can then adopt this vision and mission as we have it finalized. Director Christensen explained to the Council that a vision statement is a long term goal (50+ years) or a snapshot of what they see as the perfect Tremonton. The mission statement is what the City is doing to actually achieve that vision.

2. Discussion and review of tasks, policies, strategies, and issues surrounding the implementation of a pressurized secondary water system within Tremonton City’s incorporated limits

a. Review of the construction schedule and water shares for a secondary water system
b. Review of proposed user rates for a secondary water system

The last time City staff and the Council spoke about secondary water, they had talked about potential rates. Director Fulgham said he took the information Director Roberts provided on debt service, along with other factors to come up with a base rate. We developed three different scenarios and ran them by Director Roberts, who adapted the best rate. We recommend going with a $17 a month base rate and five tiers in usage rate in 30,000-gallon increments. That was based on the State of Utah’s recommendation for an average lot size (a quarter to a third acre) to keep a lawn healthy—not green, but alive. That is a duty factor of 1.87. He went over the current City utility bills with a secondary rate included. There is a total water base rate for culinary plus usage and a base rate for secondary and usage. Councilmember Rohde said we need to be careful with our water and in order to grow it is going to take some money out of all our pockets, but it would be nice to know how much it is going to cost the residents. Director Fulgham said he would look into those numbers.

Director Fulgham said we worked up three scenarios ranging from a $15 base rate up to $20. When we adjust one, we have to adjust the usage rate to compensate and come up with the dollar amount for the debt service and to cover operational costs for bonding approval. Director Roberts said this type of rate scenario comes in at about 128% of our debt service (has to exceed 125%). On a stand-alone basis, it should qualify, but by having it inside the water fund, we will qualify very easily. This gives us about 4.5% rate of return on assets and some maneuvering room to have that rate last a couple years. Councilmember Holmgren said based on these figures, secondary will be just as expensive as culinary water maybe more. Maybe we could look at new construction and expanding secondary water where the water shares are available and not tearing up downtown Tremonton. Residents will have to adjust their water systems to do this. What are the incentives to the homeowners to go from culinary to secondary? Director Fulgham said if residents are on culinary water, those rates have to be set to where it forces them into the secondary system through a penalty or fine. We do not have the water for growth. Councilmember Holmgren asked if there is a softer way to go about doing this so we can acquire the shares and build as we go. I see it being very costly to do all of downtown Tremonton when we do not know where the water is coming from. We need to take it a step at a time and make sure we have everything in line before we jump. Director Fulgham said we do not need the shares yet. If we do not plan, we will never get to the other side.

Councilmember Vance said there has to be a reason for residents to hook to secondary—it needs to be cheaper than if they were on culinary. Director Roberts said we could give low end users more of a discount and have a higher rate on the backside. Councilmember Vance said if it is going to cost them the same, they will not go through the hassle of switching over. I have some heartburn with raising culinary to force them into secondary. Director Fulgham said he never told the Council that secondary was going to be a cheaper option. The reason it is expensive is because we have to put in new infrastructure. Our culinary was put in 100 years ago and that is why we can operate it cheaper. With secondary we are paying for the means to move that water and get it to homes. That is why we have to do bonding and make it pay for itself or we have to adjust the culinary rates to do so. It is going to cost people money and if we are going to grow, we have to have water. We can work toward getting shares as we expand the system and utilize the canals that run through our system.

Councilmember Vance thanked City staff for their efforts in collecting this information. It took awhile to get to the numbers so we knew where we were at and now we are making the final decisions. This is just one look and I do not know how many scenarios you have looked at. If you concluded we have to raise culinary prices to make this work, you are way ahead and we are wondering if there is another way. Director Fulgham said we do not have to raise them, but we have to do something to incentivize residents to hook into secondary water either with a fine through a user rate or policing it. Councilmember Reese agreed with everything, but we as a Council have to decide how to do this and if we cannot find a way to do so, then we are saying there can be zero growth. Councilmember Holmgren said we are at status quo in Tremonton so the concern is new growth. Theoretically, new growth allows us to stay at status quo because the developer is putting in the secondary water system and the City is not encumbered. Maybe the thing to do is as new growth goes in, the City installs those systems to stay status quo. Then we can move into some of the other phases to get ahead as we gain water shares. If we are at status quo and able to handle ourselves, then let the new growth take care of the secondary system until we have things put in place for additional phases so we can minimize the impact on the citizens. Director Fulgham agreed and talked about the different service areas that could be completed with the shares the City currently has. New growth will take care of that, but it will cost the City infrastructure money to acquire a site for the pump station and easements. Manager Warnke said some cities have growth boundaries to maximize infrastructure, but we let developers control where infrastructure goes. We have to react to them, which will cost a lot more money in the end for a small amount of people. We did approve quite a few subdivisions in the spring that will hit us a year from now. Phase 3 will get us to a breakeven point with State standards.

Councilmember Rohde asked where we go from here. Director Fulgham said City staff will run more numbers on the rates. Director Roberts said the last time we presented, we thought if we kept it around $20 that would be acceptable and we tried to beat those expectations. We can play around with these rates and adjust it closer to $20 to drop the rates and give incentive by structuring the tiers a bit differently. We wanted to keep bills fairly constant. Now that we see numbers, we have to give incentive, but all we are doing is playing a balancing game. If we drive rates down a bit to give money back on secondary water, we probably are going to have to raise culinary. I do not think we can drop it down enough and still hit the margins we need for bonding. Councilmember Reese said there should be some type of incentive or cost saving to make it more sellable to citizens. Councilmember Vance said we are not starting all over, this thing needs to happen. I just wonder if there are alternatives other than just raising culinary water. Director Roberts said City staff will play with the numbers so the low end users have incentives. The Council can consider cash advances to help residents bear the cost of connecting to the system, but that would be added into the cost and can become super expensive. It would be recovered through the rate system. Councilmember Vance wondered if City staff could come back with a few more situations, leaving culinary the way it is and mixing it around with the tiers on the secondary water. If we stayed with this situation, I would like to see what the culinary water has to go up to in order to offset and incentivize the connection. Councilmember Rohde said as part of that data, he would like to see a comparison of people who use a little water versus someone who uses a lot and how it will affect them.

3. Introduction to proposed amendments to the Tremonton Land Use Code

a. Amending Title 1 Zoning Code, Chapter 1.08 Commercial and Industrial Zones by adding Tattoo Establishments as a conditional use
b. Amending Title 1 Zoning Code, Chapter 1.16 Overlay Zones, 1.16.070 Stokes Warner Sign Standards

Manager Warnke said the Planning Commission reviewed and made recommendations for a tattoo parlor and an amendment to the sign ordinance. Both of these decisions are legislative, which means the Council, as a legislative body, are deciding what we want within the Development Code and the City. These decisions are valid if reasonably debatable to promote what we believe is the general welfare of the City. They are different than administrative decisions where you have set rules to live by. This is completely within the Council’s discretion to decide what is best for the City. We are very reactive in land use decisions—we tend to look at them as an applicant and make a decision about that. Irrespective of applicants, we need to think about what we want this City to become and what is appropriate within the zone. Look at the vision of the City and what we are trying to promote and make decisions based upon a long-term perspective. We have done a lot of planning, but we have never done a land use plan to evaluate the zones or densities. Certain businesses have a synergistic affect and work better together. Restaurants and retail boutiques create a destination to bring shoppers to multiple locations. A land use plan can help us identify the zones and their vision in each district.

Councilmember Rohde said the Planning Commission’s biggest discussion was should we allow a tattoo parlor or not. If we want to allow it, then it is up to the City Council to decide where it can exist. Manager Warnke said we need to create the vision for each zoning district. The Planning Commission could engage in this vision process with a land use plan and focus on what the vision is, along with what land uses will help get us there. This would take time and would tie into our transportation plan. There is not a zone available for tattooing now so that is why they are asking for a conditional use permit. Unless we have specific conditions that are in the rules, conditional use permits do not offer us as much protection. It allows us to apply extra conditions that are premeditated and contained in the code. A lot of cities have moved away from conditional uses and gone to permitted uses.

Manager Warnke said the signs have a similar issue. We have done several overlays to allow signs that are not currently allowed. Instead of doing incremental changes, we need to take a step back and look at what we want to accomplish. What is appropriate in the zones and what land uses have a synergistic benefit? Councilmember Rohde said the problem is we have a business needing to make a decision on a sign and another that has put in an application for tattoos. If we go this route, it will put them on hold for a while. We would like the Planning Commission to start reevaluating the sign ordinance. They feel any business along the freeway will want and need taller signs, but the ordinances do not allow for that right now. They are in support of letting Warner put in a 75-foot sign because they have invested a lot of money and effort in that area. They recommend the Council allow the sign. They could evaluate the sign ordinance and send that to us. They are also in support of allowing a tattoo parlor to come to town. Manager Warnke said the sign ordinance was a little more defined in what they were recommending. The tattoo parlor is more open-ended. The Council agreed to send the tattoo topic back to the Planning Commission to evaluate what the conditions are and come up with a zone. City staff will put together a draft ordinance for the sign. Councilmember Rohde said the Planning Commission is very supportive of the idea. If we find a zone, we owe it to the public to do that.

4. Discussion and review of agenda items on the 7:00 pm City Council Meeting Agenda

5. CLOSED SESSIONS: No closed session was held at this time.

a. Strategy session to discuss the purchase of real property when public discussion of the transaction would disclose the appraisal or estimated value of the property under consideration or prevent the public body from completing the transaction on the best possible terms; and/or
b. Strategy session to discuss the character, professional competence or physical or mental health of an individual; and/or
c. Strategy sessions to discuss pending or reasonably imminent litigation; and/or
d. Discussions regarding security personnel, devices or system

The meeting adjourned at 6:58 p.m. by consensus of the Council.

CITY COUNCIL MEETING

Mayor Fridal called the September 4, 2018 City Council Meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. The meeting was held in the Tremonton City Council Meeting Room at 102 South Tremont Street, Tremonton, Utah. Those in attendance were Mayor Fridal, Councilmembers Doutre, Holmgren, Reese, Rohde, and Vance, City Manager Warnke, and City Recorder Nessen. The following Department Heads were also present: Community Services Director Marc Christensen, Public Works Director Paul Fulgham, Finance Director Curtis Roberts, and Police Chief Kurt Fertig.

1. Opening Ceremony:

Mayor Fridal informed the audience that he had received no written or oral request to participate in the Opening Ceremony. He asked anyone who may be offended by listening to a prayer to step out into the lobby for this portion of the meeting. The prayer was offered by Chief Fertig and the Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilmember Vance.

2. Introduction of guests:

Mayor Fridal welcomed those in attendance.

3. Approval of Agenda:

Motion by Councilmember Reese to approve the agenda of September 4, 2018 and table item 8. a. Motion seconded by Councilmember Doutre. Vote: Councilmember Doutre – aye, Councilmember Holmgren – aye, Councilmember Reese – aye, Councilmember Rohde – aye, Councilmember Vance – aye. Motion approved.

4. Approval of minutes – August 21, 2018

Motion by Councilmember Rohde to approve the minutes of August 21, 2018. Motion seconded by Councilmember Rohde. Vote: Councilmember Doutre – aye, Councilmember Holmgren – aye, Councilmember Reese – aye, Councilmember Rohde – aye, Councilmember Vance – aye. Motion approved.

5. Years of service award

a. Nels Jensen, Public Works -5 Years

Mayor Fridal thanked him for his years of service.

6. Proclamation Declaring September 2018 as Opioid Prescription Abuse Awareness Month – Chad Hunt, Communications Specialist, Bear River Valley Hospital

Chad Hunt said last year we presented this resolution and the City partnered with us to recognize Opioid Prescription Abuse Awareness Month. We are here to continue that effort and create awareness around this issue. It is very rampant and is a national epidemic. We are making progress in the valley and Intermountain Health Care has a goal to reduce it by 40%. We have reduced the amount of opioids prescribed by more than 20% in 2018. As a community, we are doing what we can to make changes to how our providers prescribe pills and how much. We are continuing our efforts of making sure people talk to their doctors, ask questions and follow the “speak out, opt out, throw out” model. There are other options for people. Councilmember Reese said doctors are working on this, but what about dentists? Mr. Hunt said he hopes they are too and that is the next place we could reach out to. Aside from awareness, we have done training for suspected overdose and lifesaving measures. We will continue to put our message out there and want to make sure we continue the conversation. After reading the proclamation, he thanked the City for providing disposal of medications with the drop box at the Police Department. He also provided pamphlets and posters that could be placed around town.

Lori Weston thanked the City for their partnership on the Kevin Hines event they are hosting. She said he is a suicide survivor and mental illness advocate. This relates because opioids are what people are taking when they have a mental illness or are coping with such things. That will be held on September 20, at the Bear River High School. Mr. Hunt added that Suicide Prevention Month is also fitting to mention. They are looking at bringing a hope wall into the hospital and will reach out as soon as that is available.

Motion by Councilmember Rohde to recognize September as Opioid Prescription Abuse Awareness Month and have Mayor Fridal sign the proclamation. Motion seconded by Councilmember Holmgren. Vote: Councilmember Doutre – aye, Councilmember Holmgren – aye, Councilmember Reese – aye, Councilmember Rohde – aye, Councilmember Vance – aye. Motion approved.

7. Public comments: This is an opportunity to address the City Council regarding your concerns or ideas. Please limit your comments to three minutes.

Krisha Blankenship told the Council there is already tattooing on Main Street with micro-blading and permanent makeup and asked if the Council would be opposed to them on Main Street or would they rather them in the back. We have two locations in mind, one is at the end of Main Street at 137 West and the other is behind the Bank of Utah. Money is leaving town because people are driving out of town for their tattoos. Those who go with them shop and eat while they wait. We would like to keep the money here. This is our livelihood so we would like to get it moving along. If the Council is worried about parking, we will have one to two vehicles there at a time.

Resident and Planning Commission Member Ben Greener said I want to support what we discussed in our meeting. We are developing areas that have rules, but then applicants ask for them to be changed. They do not match what we have done in other areas of the City. I think we should develop an even approach to our zoning that allows for highway signs. This overlay thing we keep doing is not fair to the people who come in. The Commission could come up with guidance for a more even approach for zoning, providing clarification and a sense of direction. That is a better approach to these overlays. Also 30% of American’s have tattoos so it is a pretty common thing and I think we should accommodate that.

8. New Council Business:

a. Discussion and consideration of adopting Resolution No. 18-45 reaffirming, amending, and enacting new fees and fines in a schedule entitled Tremonton City Consolidated Fees and Fines Schedule amending secondary water user rates

This item as tabled.

b. Discussion and consideration of approving Resolution No. 18-42 adopting the 1st Holmgren Estates East Phase 7 Subdivision Development Agreement

Manager Warnke gave some background on the development agreement. He said the special conditions discusses paying Councilmember Holmgren, as the developer, the cost associated with his installation of upsizing the storm drain system through his development to accommodate future development that will occur to the east of him. Our engineer determined what is reimbursable, but the estimate may be high or low so we are asking Mr. Holmgren to bring us the actual cost so we can pay him fairly. We estimate $21,000, which is impact fee eligible. It should be ready, but we may need to include the dedication of water shares to the City. Councilmember Holmgren said he had other questions too and suggested they table it at this time.

Motion by Councilmember Reese to table the item. Motion seconded by Councilmember Rohde. Vote: Councilmember Doutre – aye, Councilmember Holmgren – aye, Councilmember Reese – aye, Councilmember Rohde – aye, Councilmember Vance – aye. Motion approved.

c. Discussion and consideration of adoption Ordinance No. 18-10 designating and establishing regulations for weight restricted roads within Tremonton City

Manager Warnke said we discussed this at our last meeting and provided this ordinance to Val Stokes. Councilmember Rohde said he was in Planning Commission and seemed in support of it. Manager Warnke said UDOT has a facility on the west end, but thinks there is access for them to go around with the interstate system. We did add one more exception for vehicles traveling to a home or business. Councilmember Rohde asked if it is going to be hard to police that. Chief Fertig said no, they might still get pulled over, but as long as they have the right explanation, they will be good. Manager Warnke said there would be signs on the interstate or on the off ramps that should provide plenty of notice.

Motion by Councilmember Vance to adopt the ordinance. Motion seconded by Councilmember Doutre. Roll Call Vote: Councilmember Doutre – aye, Councilmember Holmgren – aye, Councilmember Reese – aye, Councilmember Rohde – aye, Councilmember Vance – aye. Motion approved.

d. Discussion and consideration of adopting Ordinance No. 18-12 approving an amendment to the Revised Ordinances of Tremonton City Corporation contained in 8-516 Inflatables Recreational Devices, Rides, Mechanical Bulls, etc. of Chapter 8-500 Tremonton City Parks

Manager Warnke said other cities exchange information, ask questions and provide lists of activities they allow or prohibit that could pose a risk to the City. We had a good list, but some others were brought to our attention by this exchange of information. They include ice blocking and water slides. It is suggested we include those to our existing list while they are on our minds.

Motion by Councilmember Holmgren to adopt the ordinance. Motion seconded by Councilmember Rohde. Roll Call Vote: Councilmember Doutre – aye, Councilmember Holmgren – aye, Councilmember Reese – aye, Councilmember Rohde – aye, Councilmember Vance – aye. Motion approved.

9. Continuation or Commencement of Workshop Agenda Items:

a. The continuation and commencement of any agenda item listed on the 5:30 p.m. City Council Workshop that has not previously been discussed

10. Calendar Items and Previous Assignment

a. Review of calendar

The Council was reminded of the barbecue at North Park for City employees at 5:30 p.m. on September 5. On Friday September 7 at 7 p.m. the Council has been asked to participate in a Peach Days lip sync. The Utah League of Cities and Towns Conference will be September 12-14.

b. Review of past assignment

11. Reports & Comments:

a. City Manager Reports and Comments

1. UDOT bidding the 1000 West and Main Street right-turn lane project

Manager Warnke said we finally got certification for our intersection improvement on Main and 1000 West. They are advertising and collecting bids for a two-month period before making a decision and constructing in the spring. We are working on our mural bid project at the fairgrounds. We had two bids came back around the budget ($9,000). The Arts Council met and made a recommendation. That will come to the Council for a final decision at the next meeting.

b. Land Use Report and Comments

Manager Warnke said he is working with Craig Adams to finalize his development agreement.

c. City Department Head Reports and Comments

Director Fulgham said he will be gone next City Council meeting and wondered if we could push the water rates issue onto the first week in October. I would like to be a part of that discussion. This will give us time to work up some options and gives the Council time to look through what we do. The Council thanked him for his work.

d. Council Reports and Comments

Councilmember Rohde said he liked Planning Commission Member Ben Greener’s idea about passing that down to the Planning Commission. Could we task them to have something back to us within a reasonable amount of time, maybe by November 1? Manager Warnke said that would be great. We could take a step back and create the vision. With that in mind, we could create the ordinances to enact the vision. They can look at current ordinances and make changes to them. Councilmember Rohde said the vision needs to be there and it needs to fall in line with what we are trying to do with our greater goals. The tattoos need to be discussed faster, but it would be nice to have them work toward a vision and master plan. Manager Warnke said if they see things that need to be changed that could move quickly, but if they go through the process on a larger scale, we might want to withhold making a lot of changes until we figure that out.

Councilmember Holmgren said the County Fair Junior Livestock Auction had almost 800 youth and 800 animals participating in that program, making about $1.2 million.

Mayor Fridal said he talked to a boy scout who wondered if the City could provide a place for them to meet. They could offer this to similar organizations as well.

Motion by Councilmember Holmgren to move into closed session. Motion seconded by Councilmember Doutre. Vote: Councilmember Doutre – aye, Councilmember Holmgren – aye, Councilmember Reese – aye, Councilmember Rohde – aye, Councilmember Vance – aye. Motion approved.

The Council moved into a closed session at 7:51 p.m.

12. CLOSED SESSIONS:

Motion by Councilmember Reese to return to open session. Motion seconded by Councilmember Rohde. Vote: Councilmember Doutre – aye, Councilmember Holmgren – aye, Councilmember Reese – aye, Councilmember Rohde – aye, Councilmember Vance – aye. Motion approved.

The Council returned to open session at 8:59 p.m.

13. Adjournment.

Motion by Councilmember Reese to adjourn the meeting. Motion seconded by Councilmember Vance. Vote: Councilmember Doutre – aye, Councilmember Holmgren – aye, Councilmember Reese – aye, Councilmember Rohde – aye, Councilmember Vance – aye. Motion approved.

The meeting adjourned at 8:59 p.m.

The undersigned duly acting and appointed Recorder for Tremonton City Corporation hereby certifies that the foregoing is a true and correct copy of the minutes for the City Council Meeting held on the above referenced date. Minutes were prepared by Jessica Tanner.

Dated this 18th day of September, 2018.

Linsey Nessen, City Recorder

Follow-up items for the Council and City Staff

Director Fulgham and Director Roberts will look into the cost difference to residents who are on secondary water. As part of that data, the Council would like to see a comparison of people who use a little water versus someone who uses a lot and how it will affect them. They will run more numbers on the rates and come back with a few more scenarios for the Council to review.

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